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		<title>Comment on Barred Owl in Dunn Meadow by Art By Katy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Art By Katy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Mar 2012 00:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;re in central NC and have a park with a creek that abuts our backyard. Have had barred owls for 3 years now...they keep coming back to nest in a tree near our deck. They have one fledgeling that&#039;s been branching in one tree all day and night, crying out for mom and pop! It&#039;s been a fascinating drama to watch and we never tire of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re in central NC and have a park with a creek that abuts our backyard. Have had barred owls for 3 years now&#8230;they keep coming back to nest in a tree near our deck. They have one fledgeling that&#8217;s been branching in one tree all day and night, crying out for mom and pop! It&#8217;s been a fascinating drama to watch and we never tire of it.</p>
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		<title>Comment on About by Deeksha Nagar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deeksha Nagar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 May 2011 23:16:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dearest Mitch and Eileen,

I have always loved your music and am a big fan of yours.  I miss you guys a lot.  Saturday mornings at Farmers Market were the highest point of my day.

Deeksha and Sikander</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dearest Mitch and Eileen,</p>
<p>I have always loved your music and am a big fan of yours.  I miss you guys a lot.  Saturday mornings at Farmers Market were the highest point of my day.</p>
<p>Deeksha and Sikander</p>
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		<title>Comment on Bee Petting, 2009 by Agent Beryllium</title>
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		<dc:creator>Agent Beryllium</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2011 01:10:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought I was the only one who stops to pet bees.  They&#039;re sooooo fuzzy!  And when you find one on a cold spring morning and they&#039;re chilled out and not at all opposed to riding on your finger?  I LOVE THAT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought I was the only one who stops to pet bees.  They&#8217;re sooooo fuzzy!  And when you find one on a cold spring morning and they&#8217;re chilled out and not at all opposed to riding on your finger?  I LOVE THAT.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ice Biking 2010-11 by Apertome</title>
		<link>http://mitchrice.us/?p=757#comment-56</link>
		<dc:creator>Apertome</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Mar 2011 20:47:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Scary! I&#039;m glad you were able to get out, and get the bike out, too. Close one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Scary! I&#8217;m glad you were able to get out, and get the bike out, too. Close one.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Pectinatella magnifica, freshwater Bryozoans in Lake Monroe by mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Oct 2010 19:28:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve seen these before in TN lakes and always wondered what there were. Now I know! Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve seen these before in TN lakes and always wondered what there were. Now I know! Thanks.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Toughest Hoosier Hills? by John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 May 2010 22:30:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure but I think you could use trigonometry to find the average grade instead of the quotient. This way it would be relatable to average grades in major races like the Tour de France. Just a thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure but I think you could use trigonometry to find the average grade instead of the quotient. This way it would be relatable to average grades in major races like the Tour de France. Just a thought.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Toughest Hoosier Hills? by Chuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2010 21:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for posting the hills, its really nice to put in perspective the suffering. I think that I may have a hill that can beat McGowan... its at exactly 1000 (554-774) on the steepness factor, for .22 miles. Its in a residential lake front community and I don&#039;t know if its gated.  here is the link....

http://www.mapmyride.com/edit_route?r=569127145507865342</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for posting the hills, its really nice to put in perspective the suffering. I think that I may have a hill that can beat McGowan&#8230; its at exactly 1000 (554-774) on the steepness factor, for .22 miles. Its in a residential lake front community and I don&#8217;t know if its gated.  here is the link&#8230;.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mapmyride.com/edit_route?r=569127145507865342" rel="nofollow">http://www.mapmyride.com/edit_route?r=569127145507865342</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Toughest Hoosier Hills? by Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 22:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me weigh in on Miller Road hill, as I went up it yesterday.  Although its difficulty might have been enhanced because I had not ridden in eight days, I thought it physically more challenging than Boltinghouse or Earl Young hills.  Two or three times, one especially, I thought about walking, but the hill is not as long as Boltinghouse, so I was able to see the end and keep going.

Unlike Boltinghouse, you get no respite a fourth of the way into the incline:  it&#039;s steep all the way.

My calves were cramping considerable when I was riding afterward on Robinson Road, although that may have been due to not having hydrated properly before the ride and not having ridden for the seven previous days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me weigh in on Miller Road hill, as I went up it yesterday.  Although its difficulty might have been enhanced because I had not ridden in eight days, I thought it physically more challenging than Boltinghouse or Earl Young hills.  Two or three times, one especially, I thought about walking, but the hill is not as long as Boltinghouse, so I was able to see the end and keep going.</p>
<p>Unlike Boltinghouse, you get no respite a fourth of the way into the incline:  it&#8217;s steep all the way.</p>
<p>My calves were cramping considerable when I was riding afterward on Robinson Road, although that may have been due to not having hydrated properly before the ride and not having ridden for the seven previous days.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Toughest Hoosier Hills? by Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve now been up Mt. Gilead west and down Miller Road hills, as well as up Brummett&#039;s Creek hill.  I&#039;d rate Brummett&#039;s Creek hill as harder than Mt. Gilead west followed by Mt. Gilead east.  MGW is hard at the beginning.  After that, only the length makes it hard. My wife made it up BC hill in her hybrid, so it&#039;s a manageable hill.

The same day I went down Miller Road hill, I previously went down Boltinghouse Road hill.  I hit a max of 48 mph on Boltinghouse, which is fairly straight.  I wanted to compare that with my maximum speed going down Miller Road in order to get difficulty comparison, but Miller is curving, so I never got above 38 mph.  I&#039;d say Miller is tougher, but I&#039;ve yet to go up it.

If you&#039;re looking for longer, upward trending, rolling roads, try Shilo from Anderson to Tunnel Road and Robinson from Old 37 to Tunnel Road.  Shilo is particularly hard.  It lots of fun, however, to take it the opposite direction, rolling hills, but mostly downhill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve now been up Mt. Gilead west and down Miller Road hills, as well as up Brummett&#8217;s Creek hill.  I&#8217;d rate Brummett&#8217;s Creek hill as harder than Mt. Gilead west followed by Mt. Gilead east.  MGW is hard at the beginning.  After that, only the length makes it hard. My wife made it up BC hill in her hybrid, so it&#8217;s a manageable hill.</p>
<p>The same day I went down Miller Road hill, I previously went down Boltinghouse Road hill.  I hit a max of 48 mph on Boltinghouse, which is fairly straight.  I wanted to compare that with my maximum speed going down Miller Road in order to get difficulty comparison, but Miller is curving, so I never got above 38 mph.  I&#8217;d say Miller is tougher, but I&#8217;ve yet to go up it.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re looking for longer, upward trending, rolling roads, try Shilo from Anderson to Tunnel Road and Robinson from Old 37 to Tunnel Road.  Shilo is particularly hard.  It lots of fun, however, to take it the opposite direction, rolling hills, but mostly downhill.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Toughest Hoosier Hills? by Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 20:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the information on steep Hoosier hills.

I went up Earl Young Road hill for the first time on Sunday.  I didn&#039;t know it was there, although I suspected it would be, I didn&#039;t know it was gravel, but was not surprised to find it was.  What surprised me was that it was one lane, which was not an issue, except that a car drove down as I was going up.  I had to dismount to get out of the way.  Getting back on and staying on was a challenge, because the road has only two 18-inch wide tire lanes between the gravel that are suitable for riding.  So any weaving results in hitting gravel and losing one&#039;s balance.  I fell off two or three times until I got a good rhythm going.

Having ridden up Boltinghouse Hill three times on a road bike, and Earl Young Hill once on a hybrid, Boltinghouse challenges one&#039;s strength more, but Earl Young requires better overall biking ability.  If you have difficulty keeping your balance at low speeds on steep grades, Earl Young will be more challenging.  Both are very difficult.

I should also add that both are so steep that you can easily pull your front wheel off the road while pulling up on the handle bars, so leaning forward is essential to maintaining balance.

I haven&#039;t ridden up Mt. Gilead west, although I&#039;ve taken Mt. Gilead east twice, both with hybrid and road bikes.  The east hill is tough, but only because its about 0.4 of a mile.  Success merely requires persistence.  My wife made it up the east hill on her hybrid.

I also found Shufflecreek Road difficult at the bottom.  I got a real burn in my legs during that climb.  But that part is short, and the top part of the hill isn&#039;t too bad.

And the two shorts hills on the western end of South Lake Shore Drive at Lake Lemon leading to Tunnel Road, especially the last hill, are tough challenges, harder than Mt. Gilead east, but not as hard as Boltinghouse.  My wife can take the Lake Drive hills, but she&#039;s not even tried Boltinghouse.  In fact, we rode on Earl Young to avoid Boltinghouse.  She walked up Earl Young Hill.  She&#039;s the sensible one.

I&#039;m 57 years old and have been riding for only three years, so if I can tackle these hills, you can also.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the information on steep Hoosier hills.</p>
<p>I went up Earl Young Road hill for the first time on Sunday.  I didn&#8217;t know it was there, although I suspected it would be, I didn&#8217;t know it was gravel, but was not surprised to find it was.  What surprised me was that it was one lane, which was not an issue, except that a car drove down as I was going up.  I had to dismount to get out of the way.  Getting back on and staying on was a challenge, because the road has only two 18-inch wide tire lanes between the gravel that are suitable for riding.  So any weaving results in hitting gravel and losing one&#8217;s balance.  I fell off two or three times until I got a good rhythm going.</p>
<p>Having ridden up Boltinghouse Hill three times on a road bike, and Earl Young Hill once on a hybrid, Boltinghouse challenges one&#8217;s strength more, but Earl Young requires better overall biking ability.  If you have difficulty keeping your balance at low speeds on steep grades, Earl Young will be more challenging.  Both are very difficult.</p>
<p>I should also add that both are so steep that you can easily pull your front wheel off the road while pulling up on the handle bars, so leaning forward is essential to maintaining balance.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t ridden up Mt. Gilead west, although I&#8217;ve taken Mt. Gilead east twice, both with hybrid and road bikes.  The east hill is tough, but only because its about 0.4 of a mile.  Success merely requires persistence.  My wife made it up the east hill on her hybrid.</p>
<p>I also found Shufflecreek Road difficult at the bottom.  I got a real burn in my legs during that climb.  But that part is short, and the top part of the hill isn&#8217;t too bad.</p>
<p>And the two shorts hills on the western end of South Lake Shore Drive at Lake Lemon leading to Tunnel Road, especially the last hill, are tough challenges, harder than Mt. Gilead east, but not as hard as Boltinghouse.  My wife can take the Lake Drive hills, but she&#8217;s not even tried Boltinghouse.  In fact, we rode on Earl Young to avoid Boltinghouse.  She walked up Earl Young Hill.  She&#8217;s the sensible one.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m 57 years old and have been riding for only three years, so if I can tackle these hills, you can also.</p>
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