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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://mitchrice.us/bike/2009/04/28/toughest-hoosier-hill/comment-page-1/#comment-190</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 May 2010 22:30:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure but I think you could use trigonometry to find the average grade instead of the quotient. This way it would be relatable to average grades in major races like the Tour de France. Just a thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure but I think you could use trigonometry to find the average grade instead of the quotient. This way it would be relatable to average grades in major races like the Tour de France. Just a thought.</p>
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		<title>By: Chuck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Apr 2010 21:59:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for posting the hills, its really nice to put in perspective the suffering. I think that I may have a hill that can beat McGowan... its at exactly 1000 (554-774) on the steepness factor, for .22 miles. Its in a residential lake front community and I don&#039;t know if its gated.  here is the link.... 

http://www.mapmyride.com/edit_route?r=569127145507865342</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for posting the hills, its really nice to put in perspective the suffering. I think that I may have a hill that can beat McGowan&#8230; its at exactly 1000 (554-774) on the steepness factor, for .22 miles. Its in a residential lake front community and I don&#8217;t know if its gated.  here is the link&#8230;. </p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Dec 2009 22:59:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me weigh in on Miller Road hill, as I went up it yesterday.  Although its difficulty might have been enhanced because I had not ridden in eight days, I thought it physically more challenging than Boltinghouse or Earl Young hills.  Two or three times, one especially, I thought about walking, but the hill is not as long as Boltinghouse, so I was able to see the end and keep going.

Unlike Boltinghouse, you get no respite a fourth of the way into the incline:  it&#039;s steep all the way.

My calves were cramping considerable when I was riding afterward on Robinson Road, although that may have been due to not having hydrated properly before the ride and not having ridden for the seven previous days.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me weigh in on Miller Road hill, as I went up it yesterday.  Although its difficulty might have been enhanced because I had not ridden in eight days, I thought it physically more challenging than Boltinghouse or Earl Young hills.  Two or three times, one especially, I thought about walking, but the hill is not as long as Boltinghouse, so I was able to see the end and keep going.</p>
<p>Unlike Boltinghouse, you get no respite a fourth of the way into the incline:  it&#8217;s steep all the way.</p>
<p>My calves were cramping considerable when I was riding afterward on Robinson Road, although that may have been due to not having hydrated properly before the ride and not having ridden for the seven previous days.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2009 18:07:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve now been up Mt. Gilead west and down Miller Road hills, as well as up Brummett&#039;s Creek hill.  I&#039;d rate Brummett&#039;s Creek hill as harder than Mt. Gilead west followed by Mt. Gilead east.  MGW is hard at the beginning.  After that, only the length makes it hard. My wife made it up BC hill in her hybrid, so it&#039;s a manageable hill.

The same day I went down Miller Road hill, I previously went down Boltinghouse Road hill.  I hit a max of 48 mph on Boltinghouse, which is fairly straight.  I wanted to compare that with my maximum speed going down Miller Road in order to get difficulty comparison, but Miller is curving, so I never got above 38 mph.  I&#039;d say Miller is tougher, but I&#039;ve yet to go up it.

If you&#039;re looking for longer, upward trending, rolling roads, try Shilo from Anderson to Tunnel Road and Robinson from Old 37 to Tunnel Road.  Shilo is particularly hard.  It lots of fun, however, to take it the opposite direction, rolling hills, but mostly downhill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve now been up Mt. Gilead west and down Miller Road hills, as well as up Brummett&#8217;s Creek hill.  I&#8217;d rate Brummett&#8217;s Creek hill as harder than Mt. Gilead west followed by Mt. Gilead east.  MGW is hard at the beginning.  After that, only the length makes it hard. My wife made it up BC hill in her hybrid, so it&#8217;s a manageable hill.</p>
<p>The same day I went down Miller Road hill, I previously went down Boltinghouse Road hill.  I hit a max of 48 mph on Boltinghouse, which is fairly straight.  I wanted to compare that with my maximum speed going down Miller Road in order to get difficulty comparison, but Miller is curving, so I never got above 38 mph.  I&#8217;d say Miller is tougher, but I&#8217;ve yet to go up it.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re looking for longer, upward trending, rolling roads, try Shilo from Anderson to Tunnel Road and Robinson from Old 37 to Tunnel Road.  Shilo is particularly hard.  It lots of fun, however, to take it the opposite direction, rolling hills, but mostly downhill.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 20:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the information on steep Hoosier hills.

I went up Earl Young Road hill for the first time on Sunday.  I didn&#039;t know it was there, although I suspected it would be, I didn&#039;t know it was gravel, but was not surprised to find it was.  What surprised me was that it was one lane, which was not an issue, except that a car drove down as I was going up.  I had to dismount to get out of the way.  Getting back on and staying on was a challenge, because the road has only two 18-inch wide tire lanes between the gravel that are suitable for riding.  So any weaving results in hitting gravel and losing one&#039;s balance.  I fell off two or three times until I got a good rhythm going. 

Having ridden up Boltinghouse Hill three times on a road bike, and Earl Young Hill once on a hybrid, Boltinghouse challenges one&#039;s strength more, but Earl Young requires better overall biking ability.  If you have difficulty keeping your balance at low speeds on steep grades, Earl Young will be more challenging.  Both are very difficult.

I should also add that both are so steep that you can easily pull your front wheel off the road while pulling up on the handle bars, so leaning forward is essential to maintaining balance.

I haven&#039;t ridden up Mt. Gilead west, although I&#039;ve taken Mt. Gilead east twice, both with hybrid and road bikes.  The east hill is tough, but only because its about 0.4 of a mile.  Success merely requires persistence.  My wife made it up the east hill on her hybrid.

I also found Shufflecreek Road difficult at the bottom.  I got a real burn in my legs during that climb.  But that part is short, and the top part of the hill isn&#039;t too bad.

And the two shorts hills on the western end of South Lake Shore Drive at Lake Lemon leading to Tunnel Road, especially the last hill, are tough challenges, harder than Mt. Gilead east, but not as hard as Boltinghouse.  My wife can take the Lake Drive hills, but she&#039;s not even tried Boltinghouse.  In fact, we rode on Earl Young to avoid Boltinghouse.  She walked up Earl Young Hill.  She&#039;s the sensible one.

I&#039;m 57 years old and have been riding for only three years, so if I can tackle these hills, you can also.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the information on steep Hoosier hills.</p>
<p>I went up Earl Young Road hill for the first time on Sunday.  I didn&#8217;t know it was there, although I suspected it would be, I didn&#8217;t know it was gravel, but was not surprised to find it was.  What surprised me was that it was one lane, which was not an issue, except that a car drove down as I was going up.  I had to dismount to get out of the way.  Getting back on and staying on was a challenge, because the road has only two 18-inch wide tire lanes between the gravel that are suitable for riding.  So any weaving results in hitting gravel and losing one&#8217;s balance.  I fell off two or three times until I got a good rhythm going. </p>
<p>Having ridden up Boltinghouse Hill three times on a road bike, and Earl Young Hill once on a hybrid, Boltinghouse challenges one&#8217;s strength more, but Earl Young requires better overall biking ability.  If you have difficulty keeping your balance at low speeds on steep grades, Earl Young will be more challenging.  Both are very difficult.</p>
<p>I should also add that both are so steep that you can easily pull your front wheel off the road while pulling up on the handle bars, so leaning forward is essential to maintaining balance.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t ridden up Mt. Gilead west, although I&#8217;ve taken Mt. Gilead east twice, both with hybrid and road bikes.  The east hill is tough, but only because its about 0.4 of a mile.  Success merely requires persistence.  My wife made it up the east hill on her hybrid.</p>
<p>I also found Shufflecreek Road difficult at the bottom.  I got a real burn in my legs during that climb.  But that part is short, and the top part of the hill isn&#8217;t too bad.</p>
<p>And the two shorts hills on the western end of South Lake Shore Drive at Lake Lemon leading to Tunnel Road, especially the last hill, are tough challenges, harder than Mt. Gilead east, but not as hard as Boltinghouse.  My wife can take the Lake Drive hills, but she&#8217;s not even tried Boltinghouse.  In fact, we rode on Earl Young to avoid Boltinghouse.  She walked up Earl Young Hill.  She&#8217;s the sensible one.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m 57 years old and have been riding for only three years, so if I can tackle these hills, you can also.</p>
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		<title>By: Mitch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 15:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, I&#039;ve been taking a break from this blog, it&#039;s about time I begin measuring some more hills, I&#039;ll post here when I add these two. Birdie Galyan is really steep just before it hits Fleener, no doubt about it. But it is relatively short, so that may be why I left it out. I plan plotting some of the shorter but steeper climbs, right now I have 1/5 mile as my lower end. If I go down to 1/10, I might find something steeper, but not tougher.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, I&#8217;ve been taking a break from this blog, it&#8217;s about time I begin measuring some more hills, I&#8217;ll post here when I add these two. Birdie Galyan is really steep just before it hits Fleener, no doubt about it. But it is relatively short, so that may be why I left it out. I plan plotting some of the shorter but steeper climbs, right now I have 1/5 mile as my lower end. If I go down to 1/10, I might find something steeper, but not tougher.</p>
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		<title>By: Russ</title>
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		<dc:creator>Russ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 15:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great idea to collect and rank these. What about Shuffle Creek Rd? And the Hilly Hundred favorite Mt. Tabor Rd? I live on Lower Birdie Galyan Rd, which has a pretty steep hill, and coming off of that is Fleener Rd. Being a runner as well as a biker, I&#039;ve done many hill repeats on McGowan Rd, so I&#039;m really familiar with that one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great idea to collect and rank these. What about Shuffle Creek Rd? And the Hilly Hundred favorite Mt. Tabor Rd? I live on Lower Birdie Galyan Rd, which has a pretty steep hill, and coming off of that is Fleener Rd. Being a runner as well as a biker, I&#8217;ve done many hill repeats on McGowan Rd, so I&#8217;m really familiar with that one.</p>
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		<title>By: David Gardner</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Gardner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Sep 2009 17:24:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Mitch!  You have an interesting blog.  I&#039;ve ridden the HMBA Century three times now, since I got back into cycling.  Living in Indianapolis and north central Indiana most of my life makes riding down south of Indy alot of fun and tiring!  I think what makes Boltinghouse so tough is the intimidation factor.  One can see the hill rise dramatically to a small landing, then rise again and curve left to reveal more rising pavement!  It is a great feeling to get to the top.

Dave</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mitch!  You have an interesting blog.  I&#8217;ve ridden the HMBA Century three times now, since I got back into cycling.  Living in Indianapolis and north central Indiana most of my life makes riding down south of Indy alot of fun and tiring!  I think what makes Boltinghouse so tough is the intimidation factor.  One can see the hill rise dramatically to a small landing, then rise again and curve left to reveal more rising pavement!  It is a great feeling to get to the top.</p>
<p>Dave</p>
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		<title>By: Mitch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Aug 2009 23:27:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks! I now have some new comments, and from someone I know! I need to update this page with some new hills, subscribe and you&#039;ll know when I do. ogreworks, huh? I&#039;ll check it out tomorrow. Most of my energy has been going to mitchrice.us/nature lately, Jojo and I saw 3 eagles when we went swimming at Lake Monroe last evening!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks! I now have some new comments, and from someone I know! I need to update this page with some new hills, subscribe and you&#8217;ll know when I do. ogreworks, huh? I&#8217;ll check it out tomorrow. Most of my energy has been going to mitchrice.us/nature lately, Jojo and I saw 3 eagles when we went swimming at Lake Monroe last evening!</p>
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		<title>By: Ange</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ange</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Aug 2009 00:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome post, Mitch.  Just ran across it on hmba.org</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome post, Mitch.  Just ran across it on hmba.org</p>
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